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2001 AIHA Lab Health and Safety Committee Meeting
New Orleans, Louisiana

 1.        Approval of minutes from 2000 AICHE Lab H&S committee meeting. 

Larry Gibbs pointed out that  Que Hee is the correct spelling  under 3a. Motion to approve with correction by Matt Finucane , second by Liz Gross ,  Approved.

2.        Membership issues.

Official membership and corresponding membership.  Everyone encouraged to participate.  That’s the way to voting membership.  Anyone wanting to cycle off, please let Pam Greeley know (greenley@mit.edu).  Pam will update.

3.          List serve, corresponding members. 

Anyone can e-mail to Lindsey Kayman (kayman@umdnj.edu) to get on list.

4.         PDC’s

Safety and Health in Research Labs – attendance about 49.  95% Favorable,  Strong consensus to increase to a full day and cover some of the topics in full depth.  Best group in terms of  participation.  Run again. Contact Joe Passante if you’re interested in participating. 

Fume Hoods and Lab Air Control Systems – difficult to evaluate.  Billed as being an advanced course, some of the information in morning was very introductory to moderate.  However, many people needed this even tough it was not’t advertised as elementary or advanced.    Instructor student interaction fine.   No logos on slides, but there did not’t have to be there.  Spoke very freely about products.  Some information a bit confusing.   Two students quite knowledgeable were upset about misinformation that was given; however, the instructor open to questions.  Not a lot of things said that were wrong, but many things were left out.   Issues with more than one perspective were presented with only one perspective.  

Was misinformation corrected?  Efforts were made to correct it.  Doug Walters is willing to talk to Continuing Education committee.

 Lab Ventilation – not enough attendees, so cancelled.

Lab Safety and Health Course not sponsored by committee – material very basic, got people talking.  Recommend both instructors, one from Battelle, from Emicon.  About 50 people attended.

Leadership in Health and Safety – absolutely engaged.  3- 23 years in business.  Good for new and old to management.  Frank. Fulwiller  recommended as instructor.

The committee plans to sponsor the safety and health in research labs next year as well as lab ventilation.

5.  Technical Sessions and Roundtables

 One is on lab safety on Wed morning, 10-12 am.   On Thursday  Gordon has organized a lab design roundtable.  Jim Rock will represent z9.5 committee.

 Biomonitoring and medical surveillance roundtable – Larry Gibbs, Joe Raab and Dave Lumby presented along with Shane Que Hee. 

 Lindsey Kayman is technical session arranger for this year’s conference – thanks.  Dave Lumby will be technical session arranger for next years lab health and safety platform session next year.  Please contact Dave if you want to present (david.lumby@covance.com).

 Doug Walters is interested in putting something together on engineering controls, containment of hazardous chemicals in lab.  Low flow hoods, use of computerized fluid dynamics.  Want to build on this years session with Gordon. Not covering low flow hoods in Thursdays session.  

 May want to think about green lab design.  Planning on roundtable format. 

6.         Web site

      Lindsey very instrumental along with her colleague at UMDNJ, Suzanne Kupiec.  Lots of material from Gordon.  Accidents and Incidents finally there.   Tom Ouimet from Yale participated in development.

 Includes technical links and incidents/accidents.  A couple submissions have come, we’ve also asked for permission to publish.  Why haven’t people submitted?  Concerns about OSHA.   All identifying information is removed.  Incidents go to Ken Kretchman, he writes key learning points.  Looking for volunteers for incidents.  One person wouldn’t submit because of legal concerns.    Going to add anonymous submission form.  Missing a section on fire safety.

 Like to add topic for fines.  Suggested that it be linked to government finding.  Lisa Greathouse from U of Louisville is keeping a list of university audits.    Labsafety listserve, safety list serve, biosafety list serve, CHSEMA list serve are also useful.

Ken Kretchman pointed out that not all other committees have a web site.  Perhaps we could get them to look at this information and send back comments.

Got comments from NFPA committee.  Asked for committee input.

Anything about self-inspections/audits,  PPE checklist,  ergonomics guide, reproductive health would be good topics.  Steve Hemperly did PPE info. 

New business item.  Reviews of carcinogen lists that come out   Tim Governor will forward carcinogen list. Deb Sharp will send lab design criteria/Min standards for lab design.

Biosafety Committee – want to liaison with this committee

7.         Compendium

       Liz Gross intended for document for free, but is part of a paid book.  Now available on web as free example chapter.  Handed out compendium.  Cross reference to other chapters, then by topic other references.  Would like everyone to take a look at any glaring holes or anything to add into addition or any updates.   This is a separate book from the compendium.  Hat’s off to Steve.   Put Liz’s e-mail in the website. 

Ken asked if we could send out a list of information to the list serve. 

8.          Outreach efforts

 ACS/ABSA   - Matt Finucane./Larry Gibbs continue to present their course to other professional disciplines.  Will present  IH for biosafety officers at American Biosafety Association (ABSA) meeting in October 2001. Attempted to present IH for chemists at ACS.  Registration was so low, decided not to do it when only seven people signed up.   Did it in St. Louis a couple of years ago.  Comments were very good.   The two courses are similar with modules go in and out for chemists or biosafety professionals. 

 In the past the committee has discussed setting up a speakers bureau to train people to do these at local/regional meetings.  Trained people could be other members.  Valuable adjunct to H&S training.    Anyone interested let Pam Greenley know (greenley@mit.edu ).

 A suggestion was made to do training on a web format vs. live. 

 CHSEMA – Ken Kretchman reported that a program was given at the end of the meeting.  Program was Lab Health and Safety & Exposure Assessment.    About 30 some people.  At conference can leverage travel.  Is this a good use of resources to send 2 people out to train 60 people.  This year’s conference is at Texas A&M. 

 Rolf Hahne pointed out that  UWASH ERC offers lab health and safety course through the Northwest Center for Occupational Health and Safety.

 Lindsey Kayman suggested we could publish course listings on web-site.

 ACS – Doug Walters.   165K chemists at ACS.    Workshops at ACS are not crowded.  18 is huge.  17K people attended.  Chemical Hygiene standard required chemical hygiene officers.  Small companies that have small labs.  Chemist is CHO, person doesn’t go to AIHCE or ACS national meetings.  CHO training at a local level.  We should try to match up local AIHA and ACS training.   Doug has been serving as AIHA liaison to ACS Div of Chemical Health and Safety.  Doug pointed out that Lou DiBeradinis and Emmett Barclay won awards from this group.  In addition to travel to the meeting there was a 2k award.  Doug is currently awards chair and would like submissions. 

 Web based training course through web site.    Is anyone willing to donate some segments of on-line training.  Rich Prodhans noted that on-line training is available already and we shouldn’t try to duplicate it.

 Training and communication committee.  Web based some things appropriate, some not. Assume 50-400 hours of time per hour of web based training.  

 Charlyn Pert asked if we could get a link to our site from the ACS site.   

 Want to have limitations of what CHO is vs. Industrial hygienist or safety engineer.     Larry took a crack at that type of content.  If you’ve got expanded duties, then you may need to get additional information.  

 The Lab Standard preamble states there are 100K Labs anticipated to be affected by the standard.

 Deb Sharpe pointed out that we need to define our scope.  Should it be lab safety training or simply what the standard require of a CHO.

 Doug Walters pointed out that  it’s too complicated to have one training.  Go with local section level.   There would be someone in that geographical area who’s willing to do the local training. 

 Ross Grayson pointed out that before we can do this we need to limit the scope.

 Peter Harnett pointed out that being CHO is complicated and many people don’t want to do training.  

 Matt Finucane suggested putting up something about what a CHO should know and where they could get information otherwise.  

 Pam Greeley suggested starting a very basic primer, but not necessarily a training site.

 Sandy Witek-Eames suggested having one page fact sheets. 

 Tom Ouimet suggested that we think about distance learning more broadly.

 Jim Kaufmann already runs a lab safety list server and puts on training.  

 Should we plan training around CHO exam prep?  If you read the standard, you can pass exam.  Also, one day training for CHO exam is already available through the Lab Safety and Environmental Management meeting that is put on each year. 

 Start with something – Start with information bases. That let’s people figure out what we don’t know.

 Joe Raab pointed out that the course has to have perceived value for a person to be willing to take the course. 

 Matt Finucane pointed out that much of what you do is institution based and culture.  Doesn’t think sharing is always a good idea.

 A survey of CHO duties was suggested, but several people felt it was not a good idea.

 Ken Kretchman suggested we develop job descriptions – perhaps Chemical Hygiene officer I / II / III .

 Lindsay summarized stating this was a good start and asked for volunteers.   Rolf Hahne, Sandy Witek-Eames , Tom, Ouimet, Ken Kretchman, Peter Harnett, Vilmarie Rodriguez, and Deb Sharpe. Volunteered to work on CHO training.

9.        Liaisons  with other committees

AIHA Exposure Assessment committee – Ken Kretchman reported that both they and biosafety committee are putting on symposium.  Exp Assess. is tacked onto PCIH. 

 AIHA Biosafety committee – Ken Kretchman reported that the Biosafety committee is going to do a re-write of the Biosafety Reference Manual.  Looking for comments outside of biosafety committee.  Phil Houck is contact person. 

 White book – review requested.  The Occupational Environment:  It’s Evaluation and Control.  If anyone is interested, please review.   Lab H&S is 48 of 50 chapters.  Stephan Wasnecki and Faye Thompson.   Ross Grayson, Deb Sharp, Dan Hurley, Doug Walters, George Petroka and Sandy Witke-Eames are willing to review.

 Z9.5 committee  - Doug Walters reported that the comment period is over.  Comment has been received.  Most comments are typos.  Group is being formed to make the changes, will be changed and then issued. 

 Tom Ouimet is looking for training materials for firefighters responding to laboratory fires.   

 NFPA 45 revisions -  Ken Kretchman to supply info. 

10.  Fellows nominations

The AIHA has a fellows program to recognize individuals with long outstanding service to AIHA. Please send Pam Greenley any nominations.  (greenly@mit.edu ).

11.  Lindsay Cook - Board Member liason

      Lindsay offered to take questions after discussing two points.

 Point 1.  Technical committee development fund – AIHA puts aside 25K per year to fund projects that committees see the need to have.   At some point the project should become revenue neutral.  Applications are due in August.

 Point 2.  Recent board activities - L. Boor of Exxon Mobil was appointed to look at services that association provides to members and others to see what’s the value.  Report was excellent.  Primary goal was to focus on what we do and how we provide it.  In past, lack of fiscal rigor.  Many projects starting, but other projects not ending.  Looking at what we’re doing.  It’s a value rank not a cost benefit ranking.  Don’t have any specifics today.   Benefit of organization to look at new projects.   Change in new managing director .  Wanted to have filled by strategic planning cycle start in Nov. 

 Q:  Lab H&S committee embodies the “total EH&S professional”.  Philosophically, where is AIHA going with larger EHS role?

 A:  WE are trying to collaborate with different groups  like ASSE.  We are having foundations work together.  We tried to have a joint leadership conference with peers in ASSE.  Unfortunately, that spiraled down hill.   In the fall, leadership committee changes fell apart. Our technical committee leadership meeting will now be held independently in March.

 A:    Federation of EHS organizations is under potential development.  Mort Corn has started to discuss idea.  Unification idea has started but only at groundwork state.

 Q:   Where do you go to find out to find the cost of the conference name changes?

 A:  Lindsey Cook agreed to find out.  More money would have been available to technical committees if it hadn’t spent on these activities.   Staff has had free rein to figure these things out.  The conference is single largest generator of revenue; part of the thinking was to attract more people to the conference.

 Q:  How is AIHA supporting TLV lawsuits?

 A:  AIHA will respond.   Has AIHA given any money yet.  Still to be considered by the board.   Has a vote come up?  Discussion at Jan meeting.  Vote was to delay consideration until how, when, where were decided upon.   May have to consult total membership.

 12.     Larry Gibbs motioned to adjourn, seconded by Matt Finucane,  Approved

 Respectfully Submitted,  David Lumby,   Secretary

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